|
The Stairs, Isle of Wight, August 1993: Ged Lynn, Paul Maguire, Edgar Jones |
The Stairs are back. On 26 November, over twenty years
since their last performance, Edgar Jones (then Summertyme), Ged Lynn and Paul
Maguire play a hometown reunion gig at the Kazimier in Liverpool. For a brief
moment in the early 90s it appeared their big boss beat might crossover into
the mainstream and whilst debut single ‘Weed Bus’ became something of a classic
and their LP Mexican R’n’B sounds as
good today as it did then, they fizzled out of the public eye after label Go Discs short-sightedly released them.
In early 1994 I interviewed Edgar for issue three of my
fanzine, Something Has Hit Me, and it caught them at an experimental and ambitious
time, excited by the possibilities of where their music could take them and what they could achieve.
Unfortunately, they didn’t release another record during their lifetime and
folded not long after. A second album
Who
Is This Is, which featured much of the material Edgar mentioned and was part
of their live set at that time, quietly sneaked out on Viper many years after
their demise. The same label this month releases a new odds and sods
compilation,
The Great Lemonade Machine
In The Sky, including demos, live songs and alternative versions. Also, a
limited edition 45, the Beefheartesque bonkers
'Shit Town' is pulled from the album.
With drummer Paul now based in Iceland don’t expect The
Stairs to return full time so any chance you get to see them, grab it. In the
meantime, let’s go back to ’94, that fanzine article and enjoy a few previously
unseen photos…
Something Has Hit Me: In 1991/1992, The Stairs released four great EPs and an
outstanding LP, Mexican R’n’B.
Everything they did was geared to being as authentically 60s sounding as
possible, right down to having Go Discs release their records in mono only.
Their sound was an accurate blend of Pretty Things, Chocolate Watchband and
early Stones, anything modern was frowned upon Hand in hand with this was their
well-documented love and use of dope, with two of their singles, ‘Weed Bus’ and
‘Mary Joanna’, being less than subtle in sentiment. Even their t-shirts bore
the legend “Superstars of Smoking”.
The last eighteen or so months have seen an almost
complete silence from the band, only popping up occasionally for the odd low
key gig. Now in 1994, they’ve started to gig more regularly again. Something
Has Hit Me talked to singer and chief songwriter, Edgar Summertyme.
You did a live
session for GLR (Greater London Radio) this morning. How was it?
It was sound. Boss like. A good buzz getting up early in
the morning and going down and playing. It was a good room to play in, as it
was the first time I’ve heard everyone in the band properly for ages. We did
two new songs that went out live, ‘Skin Up For Me Baby’ and ‘It Was Alright’.
We’re trying out a few different bags at the moment. Like the way we’re playing
and getting into different things. One of those songs is quite heavy and the
other is more Tamla. We’re just trying to see what fits best, cos since we’ve
left Go Discs we’ve become a different band really.
So you’ve left Go
Discs then? Is that why you’ve been so quiet?
Yeah, that’s right. The fella that signed us left the
company and then we had a big patch with no money coming in and that.
Have you gone
anywhere and signed with someone else?
We’re not gone anywhere, we’ve looking at the moment.
Tonight’s our first sort of showcase (at the Bass Clef in Hoxton). We’ve still
got the publishing deal with Warner Chappell though, that’s important. They
even had ‘Russian Spy and I’. They actually own that song but had to phone
Holland and go through all their old records to check they owned it.
I thought the
promotion you got from Go Discs was quite good.
Yeah it was quite reasonable like. They put us about a
bit and all that. But the head man there now just isn’t into our bag. He’s just
into pop records. We were getting harder and heavier and generally better and better
at playing, but he isn’t a man that listens to the rhythm section or a record,
he just listens for the twee lead singer. He likes twee lead singers and I
could never sing like that.
You said about
getting into different things, I saw you’re at the Isle of Wight last August
(1993) and your sound was quite different, heavier in places and it seemed some
was improvised.
Yeah, it was the San Franciscan thing really, that we got
into. We’re trying to take that sound and modernize it. The thing is today,
there’s a lot of good bands around but they’re not playing with real good
taste. But I think that you can do something with modern music and make it
tasty. I mean, there’s the occasional moments of Lenny Kravitz that are
alright, you know what I mean, but he hasn’t the je ne sais quoi to quite pull
it off. People will just have to wait for us. We just want to see a British
band that’s as good as say the Red Hot Chilli Peppers and things like that.
They’re quite good but they’ve got such a shit singer.
So it’s not just a
case of recreating that 60s sounds anymore?
No, we want to take it further now. Because as musicians
we’d just die, we’d be cabaret and that’s not a good place to be. I’ve got all
the respect in the world for bands like The Aardvarks and that, who are
carrying on doing that, bit I just don’t think it’s for us to carry on in that
vein forever. Although, having said that, I’m looking back a bit further as
well as looking forward. Listening to Sun Ra, Ornette Coleman, there’s more of
that to be learnt. Captain Beefheart-isms. There’s a lot of ways to go. You
don’t have to be Led Zep to take your music into the future. Things like Little
Richard. There’s a lot to Little Richard than you realise because of all those
70s bands doing versions of his songs. But if you listen they sound like a lot
of those early Stax records from the late 50s, if you listen closely.
Do you listen to a
lot of soul music?
Yeah, you can learn a lot from that. The way the bands
played together. The way they make room for someone to do something. I’ve
learnt so much from that. I’ve always liked Motown and stuff but recently I’ve
been playing Willie Mitchell, Garland Green, Jimmy McGriff and early James
Brown instrumentals, things like that.
Have you recorded
any new material?
We’re recorded a few demos and that but we’re looking to
record some more when we get the money. We’ve got so much material to get
through. We’re about a year behind my writing now, so we’ve got a lot of
catching up to do.
Will those songs
just get left behind?
Yeah a lot of it will but songs go through rebirths.
Sometime they go through very big changes. If I decide I don’t like the
arrangement or something I’ll do a “tribute” arrangement. Like on ‘No One
Knows’, I hated the arrangement so we did a bit of an Easybeats tribute, 1966
style. So, you’ve always got all that to choose from. Having said what I did
earlier, we’ll always bring up things from the past, but we’ll try to present
them with the modern person in mind, because we want to reach as vast an
audience as possible. If anything, we’d like to teach them and then give them
weirdness. Get ‘em into that. Plus it would be good for the other bands as well
because no one is reaching across that barrier at the moment. We want to break
down that barrier.
You recorded an
album of cover versions that didn’t come out, how come?
The label, Imaginary, folded. So we were unable to
release it. One of the tracks that might have ended up on it was featured on a
compilation. We did ‘Moonchild’ by Beefheart. It was a pretty spot on copy.
It’s on 1965 Through The Looking Glass
but I haven’t got a copy of it myself yet.
What about putting
something out yourself?
Yeah, we’re thinking of doing a single ourselves. We’re
trying out a few new ways of recording. I can’t really go into it cos someone
might rob the idea but basically it’s a way of getting a modern sound that
sounds like an old sound that sounds like a modern sound. Also, there’s a lot
more range to this band that you don’t know about. Left Banke kinda stuff that
you’ll never hear live, but they will eventually come out on albums. I love
that big production stuff.
Brian Wilson?
Yeah, I was a big Smile
freak for about two years. When I was 19-20 I wrote a load of soft songs.
We can’t play any of them live. We were going to do an album under a different
name and call it Wet Sounds but had
to abandon the idea cos Go Discs weren’t into us going under a different name.
We loved those songs, all nice lightweight 1966 pop songs. I was great to write
those.
(There was a load
of general chat here about bands having loads of great unreleased material and
conversation turned back to the Easybeats).
I met George Young of the Easybeats a couple of years ago
because we wanted him to produce us. But he came to tell me he didn’t produce
anymore. He sat me down and gave me a two hour talk on how to look after myself
in the music business, which was amazing. Because basically he’d fucked up
badly. There was unreleased material of theirs left, right and centre. Albums
cancelled and stuff. He just told me how to compose myself and to smoke a lot
less of that stuff. Cos he used to be on it all the time and now he’s the most
together man in the world. He’s just into looking after his family, which is
really nice. He just told me to never forget my family.
So there you have it. A definite mellowing in The Stairs
camp. Don’t worry about talk about getting modern sounding, as having heard
some of the new songs live a few times I can tell you there are some real
crackers there. ‘It Was Alright’ is as good a track as they’ve done previously
and would have easily on Mexican R’n’B.
As for some of their more experimental stuff, well, it’s simply brilliant. It
may take some time before any of it sees a proper release, so make sure you go
and see them live, they’ll knock yer socks off!
|
The Stairs at the Bass Clef, Hoxton, 1994
|
|
Something Has Hit Me, Issue 3, April 1994 |